Formally:
I've Got Me a Chalif
Updated 1/20/09: See below
. . . Don't mess y'all.
It's important to note something:
Tonight is 24 Teves, the Yahrzeit of the Alter Rebbe . . .
One of the special takanos that Chassidim took on and that the Alter Rebbe brought down into halacha was the concept of using a polished steel knife.
To quote a note from the English of HaTamim (the renowned journal of Chassidic Thought, Pilpulim in Negla and much more - published by in Otwock)
Most Jewish communities had been using iron knives, which were more difficult to sharpen. If they were highly polished, they would quickly become knicked, and thus unfit for use. The nuisance of constantly resharpening and repolishing them was not considered worthwhile. Moreover, the polished steel knives had been deemed a new innovation, which some authorities wished to avoid. The Alter Rebbe, however encouraged the use of the polished steel knives (see Alter Rebbe's Shulchan Aruch, Vol. 6, Responsum No. 7).
My friends . . . Ashreinu! Today the whole world uses a Chassidishe chalaf! What was once one of the four "reasons" the misnagdim put the Chassidim in cherem, today has become the universally accepted standard.
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23 comments:
BS"D
So you are going to learn schitut?
Is the same chalif used for oifois and beheimois? It has been 12 years since I was at a shlacthoiz.
So that belongs to you now you're saying? It's awfully pretty.
Oh goody! I collect those...and spoons too...
-Der Shygetz: IY"H I'll be learning it. This one is for oifois - The one's for beheimos are bigger.
-LE7: Yup. It
is pretty but not cheap . . .
-Sarabonne: this aint no ordinary knife. Don't go all spoony on it!
Most pretty things aren't cheap. Including cellos and girls.
Cellos I know . . . I used to play the Bassoon - you can check out prices on them here!
You set this up for a joke about cheap girls . . . but I'm not going there :-P
RE Bassoons: Ah those are expensive. More than my cello.
RE Girls: I didn't expect you to. I would have been sorely disappointed if you did actually.
I dunno, samurai swords are really something special...
My history teacher played a violin, I know its not the same, but it was so tiny and he would only play it after we got our test scores back.
No. Violins are also pretty, and expensive.
-Sarasobbone: A Samurai Sword! Drool.
A katana beats my saber any day!
LE7: Indeed, a Stradivarius gets up there in price.
Hey, the label in my cello says Stradivarius...
(That was a well placed joke).
LS"D
The Admou"r meCreedmoor paskens that cheap girls turn out being very expensive in the end.
LE7 - is it a replica of a Stradivarius? Or did Stradivarius even produce any cellos?
It's a joke because ever other cello, violin and viola says Stradivarius on the label. It's a copy. Just like every other instrument.
But he did make cellos.
And mine happens to be a better copy. (Hand made in 1929 in Germany).
I can't believe you bought a knife that reads right on the lable that it is a knock off.
-LE7: You do realize, then, that you have a Nazi Cello.
-Nemo: It's not a knockoff. Miller made amazing Chalafim, but passed away with out revealing all of his secrets (The Stradivari of chalafim if you will) - this one is an attempt to replicate his techniques.
Not necessarily. Weren't a lot of Jews in that business?
Anyways, at least I don't have a church cello. I know a girl that her instrument was made by a guy who only used wood salvaged from old churches.
BS"D
1929 cello - I would indeed be more inclined to think that a Jew who later became a refugee or victim of the Nazis YMS was the one who made it.
The Nazis YMS took over in 1933.
And the problem with the pre-Chassidus iron knife is that it snagged on the animal's throat. That is how the derogatory term snag came into being.
Mottel, I have a real Miller ... wanna buy it?
Anyway, why would you train on an expensive chalef? Get yourself something cheap and a 1000/6000 combination waterstone and you can keep yourself busy for at least a few months.
ooh, sharp and shiny!!
are you going to start a sword collection like my brother?
more seriously - that is a very cool point. makes my good lubavitch heart proud.
der shygetz - haha, nice line.
LE7 - church wood cello? that's seriously creepy.
The age of the Church Wood helps give it a better tone . . . So using it might be a good thing - after all, to use church wood, someone has to take apart a church.
Anyone out there up for a church wood Viola?
is that like turning a church into a shul? because it just seems wrong to me...
True, her cello sounds fantastic. I wonder how old the wood used to make my cello is...
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